and voila!!!!! it was just as denise said.The battery was dead!!!...she is soo smart sometimes it scares me. The new battery is in my old car and it started like a charm. Denise couldnt wait at home for long....i was walking around walmart when I spotted her coming around a corner.She missed me and all i can say is that i sure did miss her as well.We waited and then came straight home for morning coffee and toast which we delayed today to get the battery replaced.sheesh if we miss each other after only an hour what is it going to be like when i start work on monday....hahahahah....I am sure we will manage......lol......later